Brent Younger was Sr. pastor of Broadway Baptist Church before he went to the McAfee School of Theology in the Atlanta area to teach preaching.  Black preachers make White preachers nervous.  We wonder how they do what they do.  How they memorize all those texts in the KJV.  How they can strong one sentence after another without pausing to breathe.

But deep down, White preachers think we bring the substance even if we’re not so good on the form.  Is that true?  Can Black students learn anything from a white preaching professor, or does the learning move in both directions?

This conversation between Dr. Younger and three of his star pupils, originally published by the Associated Baptist Press, is an eye-opener.  AGB

White preaching professor, black preaching students

George White III, Dihanne Moore and Joshua Scott are three of the best and brightest at the McAfee School of Theology. We sat down recently to talk about seminary, race and what would happen if I preached in their churches.

By Brett Younger

Brett: Our student body is 48 percent African-American and 13 of the 15 faculty members are white. Have you wondered if this is a good place for an African-American minister?

Dihanne: What really shocked me was the first time I went to chapel. I thought, “Oh no! I can’t do this. They’re singing hymns out of a hymnal. Nobody’s saying ‘Amen!’ Nobody’s shouting, ‘Hallelujah!’” I made myself go and ended up embracing a new way to worship God. It’s just different.

Brett: Are you glad you are at a racially diverse seminary?

George: I wouldn’t have it any other way, because that’s the real world. You have to learn how to deal with people that are different from you, and you might as well learn that here.

Joshua: My breakthrough came in preaching. Now I feel comfortable saying, “It doesn’t matter who’s out there. I can reach them with the word of God.” That’s when I said, “McAfee was not a mistake.”

Brett: What do you wish African-American churches knew about seminary?

Joshua: That it’s not the devil. That you can go to a multi-cultural seminary and not lose your African-Americanness.

George: My church is concerned that you’re going to lose what they’ve taught you. They’re afraid that the professors are going to teach you what to believe and not just how to better interpret the word of God. (more…)

By Alan Bean

We live in a post-denominational world.  This does not mean the distinction between a Presbyterian and a Methodist, or between a Roman Catholic and a Protestant, has become meaningless.  But, especially among the young, denominational distinctions are strictly secondary.  I am not a Roman Catholic, but I see Pope Francis as a spiritual leader, my spiritual leader, not because he holds a particular office, but because he is a man of wisdom and spiritual discernment.

Does this mean that Pope Francis, or any other religious leader, is always right?  Perhaps we should let the Holy Father answer that question himself.  This brief excerpt is taken from the latter part of the full interview with Pope Francis recently published in the National Catholic Review.

Certitude and Mistakes

I ask, “So if the encounter with God is not an ‘empirical eureka,’ and if it is a journey that sees with the eyes of history, then we can also make mistakes?”

The pope replies: “Yes, in this quest to seek and find God in all things there is still an area of uncertainty. There must be. If a person says that he met God with total certainty and is not touched by a margin of uncertainty, then this is not good. For me, this is an important key. If one has the answers to all the questions—that is the proof that God is not with him. It means that he is a false prophet using religion for himself. The great leaders of the people of God, like Moses, have always left room for doubt. You must leave room for the Lord, not for our certainties; we must be humble. Uncertainty is in every true discernment that is open to finding confirmation in spiritual consolation. (more…)

By Alan Bean

When I introduced Fred Clark’s last post on the relation between American evangelical theology and opposition to the abolition and civil rights movements, I noted that it is possible to read the Bible literally without supporting either slavery or racial segregation.  I know this because I have encountered dozens of evangelical African American pastors (and a few White evangelicals as well) who interpret the Bible literally while embracing Dr. King’s vision of the Beloved Community.  A couple of days later, as if anticipating this line of argument, Fred Clark wrote a follow-up post in which he argues that evangelicals who desire what Jesus called the Kingdom of God are forced to “move on from biblical literalism because biblical literalism, when honestly pursued, falls apart.

The problem, Clark says, is that on issues like slavery the Bible says many things which cannot all be true.  The Bible says that slaves should obey their masters and that slavery must be rejected and deplored.  A true literalist, however, cannot admit that the Bible speaks with more than one voice on anything.  Therefore, if you want to use the Scriptures to defend the practice of slavery you must pretend that the only message to be found in Scripture is a pro-slavery message.  If the Bible is God’s Word, the argument goes, how can an omniscient God contradict himself? (more…)

By Alan Bean

Carolyn DuPont’s Mississippi Praying: Southern White Evangelicals and the Civil Rights Movement, 1945-1975 can’t be purchased in any format for under $35, but it is a book I will definitely buy when my ship comes in.  If her reviewers are anything to go by, DuPont covers much the same historical terrain I explored while doing my doctoral dissertation on southern white theologian W.O. Carver and, more recently, while researching the historical background of the Curtis Flowers case in Mississippi (for instance.)

Since I don’t have time to lay out my personal thesis, I will share Fred Clark’s excellent analysis of the issues.  Comparing DuPont’s treatment of civil rights era Mississippi with Mark Noll’s examination of the interplay between slavery and theological evolution in the South prior to the Civil War, Clark asserts that we are dealing with a second-verse-same-as-the-first phenomenon.

A crude biblical literalism was employed to justify slavery in the mid-19th century, and the identical hermeneutic was used to shore up segregation in the mid-20th century.

Now, Clark observes, the same theology is being employed to negate the equality of women.

Three strikes and you’re out.

I have one slight quibble.   (more…)

 

Bud Kennedy sent me the link to this troubling column featuring Micah Hurd, an ex-Marine who thinks Texas ought to Secede from the Union and create a new nation based on a literal reading of Old Testament Law.  AGB

In Texas, if at first you can’t secede, try — joining a militia?

Now, after more than 125,000 Americans signed his petition, Micah Hurd has sort of seceded.

Hurd, 24 and now a Plano resident, left college at UT-Arlington and quit the Texas State Guard.

Frustrated with the Guard, the state’s civil disaster-relief corps, he instead has joined a militia.

The Guard doesn’t have a “productive vision,” Hurd said, adding that he thinks Texas needs a “military force.”

He joined a Weatherford-based militia to resist “if we get attacked by our government.”

Hurd, the son of a Weatherford pastor, landed in The Washington Post in November when he petitioned President Barack Obama to let Texas “withdraw” and keep its “standard of living … [under] the original ideas and beliefs of the Founding Fathers.”

Hurd said Friday, “I adamantly believe Texas should secede.”

And if the rest of America doesn’t see it that way?

“I do not believe at this point we should enact a revolution,” he said.

“But in 50 years — who knows?”

The White House sent a brief response to Hurd’s petition and others from eight states, saying America’s founders meant to create a “perpetual union” as described in the Articles of Confederation.

“I can’t find that anyplace in the Constitution,” Hurd said.

He said he bases his views in part on his faith as a follower of Christian Reconstructionism and dominionism, a libertarian strain of Christianity.

To Reconstructionists, liberty and human rights are Bible-based and the only righteous government is a theocracy under “God’s law.”

“Nowhere in God’s law does it say I must continue to be subject to a tyranny,” Hurd said.

“We can remove ourselves from our fiscally irresponsible government.”

Hurd’s departure from the Texas State Guard was not without controversy.

When his White House petition made the news, 4th Regiment Col. Howard Palmer of Denton emailed volunteers not to discuss secession in any government capacity.

Palmer’s email called the idea “ignorant talk” and told any secessionists to “make it go away.”

Hurd said he was not petitioning as a Guard member. (He remains a Marine reservist after five years in the North Carolina-based 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing.)

Now living in Plano with his family and studying to become a fiber engineer, Hurd said he will commute to drills in Weatherford and hopes to counter stereotypes of a “Billy Bob militia.”

He fears the federal goverment “stepping in and mandating a sweeping change of laws to limit our rights,” he said.

“Those rights are God-given.”

In all the nostalgia for Texas independence — just last week Railroad Commission Chairman Barry Smitherman speculated that the rest of the U.S. might collapse — there has been little discussion of the religious overtones.

Writing on “secession theology” for Religion News Service last fall, Massachusetts scholar G. Jeffrey MacDonald compared the petitions to a reformation and church splits over purity.

Hurd said converting Texas or America to a religious theocracy is a “long-term goal — it might take 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 years.”

He is not the only secessionist thinking that way.

 

Too busy to bloviate this morning; but here’s is the stuff I would be talking about if I had the time:

Scott (Grits) Henson had a couple of terrific blog posts over the weekend:

Elysium at the airport: TSA groping now only for poor people suggests that limiting TSA screenings to less affluent travelers is “a tacit admission that such screenings were really pointless security theater.”  The phrase “security theater” captures the sad reality beautifully.

And then there’s this: The free jail myth: County pols must stop pretending incarceration pays for itself.  The “free jail myth” has been refuted so many times you’d think small town public officials would have caught on by now; but they never do.  Promises of free jails are driving the proliferation of private prisons.

On Syria:  Jon Huckins has a terrific post over at Red Letter Christians: Syria: The Stuff No One Wants To Talk About.  Proponents and critics of a military response have one thing in common: they aren’t thinking about the ordinary people affected by this tragedy.  Huckins captures the ethical complexity of this issue beautifully:  “On one hand, we can’t simply launch missiles into this region that kills innocent civilians (which they will) and then go eat a burrito and talk about our fantasy football teams. On the other hand, we can’t simply stand idle as tens of thousands of innocent civilians are being killed by a regime that devalues life.”

Finally, the excellent-and-always-improving Associated Baptist Press has two great articles:

In Working Poor a Ministry Focus, Baylor journalism student Daniel Wallace reminds us that poor folks aren’t all unemployed or homeless; most of them are working dead-end jobs that don’t pay enough to feed, clothe and house a family.  Are churches set up to respond?

Then, in Does Your Church Need Millennials, pastor Emily Hull McGee shares this sobering advice: “before you buy better church coffee or even hire someone to create a ministry with young adults, know this: Your church must be ready and willing to be transformed and forever changed by the passions of 20- and 30-somethings if you intentionally invite them in.”

If you wonder what she means by that, Emily spells it out in startling detail.  Her thoughts run parallel to the Common Peace Community Friends of Justice is putting together in DFW.