11 thoughts on “White guy, black guy, pretty girl.”
If you think crime only begets legitimate racial profiling and not the reverse, consider this. Scene: Black kid goes to store to buy twinkies & rootbeer. Profile: Kids who are black, walk and wear hoodies are all “on drugs” and “up to no good”. Black kid is obviously engaged in criminal activity because he is black, walks and eats at same time. Black kid is obviously a lethal threat because he begins behaving nervously once he realizes he is being stalked. (Don’t forget, its legal to stalk, but it is clearly evidence of criminal activity to be nervous while knowing you are being stalked.) Black kid tries hiding for 4 minutes but stalker ain’t getting back in his car. 4 minutes of silence = black kid is a killer. Black kid sees no out and stands his ground. Black kid is plugged for standing his ground and bleeds out 50% of his weight in 2 minutes. Result: 6 million black mothers with 12 million black kids who were formerly against their children carrying guns now load them all up with 9mm handguns to carry on their snack runs. You fill in the rest…..
As appalling as it is, the Trayvon Martin tragedy is an excellent illustration of the Thomas Theorem. “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.” To my way of thinking, the social construction of reality may be the best way of explaining how a boy doing nothing more than returning home from the store can be labeled as an f’ng punk, stalked, and ultimately killed within a matter of minutes. Labeling, moreover, has a defining impact on the audience as well as the individual. I’m reminded of works such a “Wayward Puritans” (those f’ng Quakers! Everyone knows they’re all witches!), by Erickson, as well as the classic study by Chambliss, “The Roughnecks and the Saints.”
I’m an African. When I first saw this video, I was enraged. But upon further probing, I found a longer version of this video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0kV_b3IK9M It is instructive to note that (i) somebody actually confronted the white guy [see 01:45], (ii) somebody assisted the black guy to take the bike [see 6:30], and (iii) somebody actually called the Police to report the white lady [see 09:54].
I’ve no idea where this experiment was conducted, nor whether or not it was edited ethically, but what I do know (and I do mean KNOW) is that I could care less what colour the person is, if I’d seen such an action I’d have phone ready and approached the man, asking him what was going on. If either of them had given me the answers these men gave, I’d be calling the police immediately.
Fact.
What was the typical response? That is the question. It would be very surprising if ever single person who witnessed these three people responded the same way; but if almost everyone responds in a certain way, the edited version probably has it about right.
It depends on what neighborhood and/or what part of the country you’re in. There are way more factors than merely color of skin. And thanks to the African fellow who actually did his research. If the tables were reversed would you be up in arms about the missing footage?
No thank you. As per the black on black crime ~ I respectfully decline being baited to “fill in the rest” by reciprocating in-kind, i.e., pulling random irrelevant “facts” out of context that happen to suit a position and slinging them back at you. If you had more knowledge and understanding of an accurate history of blacks in America you might be better poised to see how several hundred years of slavery, Emmett Till, Willie Lynch, Jim Crow, et al created the inevitable evolution of black on black crime. NPR today pointed to research showing that teenaged white boys and teenaged black boys are engaged in the exact same level of smoking marijuana, yet black boys are EXPONENTIALLY more often arrested and convicted over whites. As per your link on some baby being killed, but with all due respect, I don’t have a clue what your point is, but it surely is not relevant to anything here.
First I must as “No thank you” what?
“No thank you, I’m not willing to actually look at the evidence”?
As per your being “baited”, isn’t that what you did, with your “you fill in the rest” bit after suggesting that “6 million black mothers with 12 million black kids who were formerly against their children carrying guns now load them all up with 9mm handguns to carry on their snack runs.”
I’m calling “bullshit” on this.
Emotionalist nonsense.
You haven’t a clue as to what you’re talking about.
And the point of the link of the white baby killed by the black teenagers was the fact that this was in no way, shape, nor form, covered in the manner as Trayvon Martin. The baby was just sitting there, being a baby, probably smiling, unknowingly at his murderer, thinking he was being handed a candy. Get it now?
And this was just pure bull: “Black kid tries hiding for 4 minutes but stalker ain’t getting back in his car. 4 minutes of silence = black kid is a killer. Black kid sees no out and stands his ground. Black kid is plugged for standing his ground and bleeds out 50% of his weight in 2 minutes.”
Emotionalists nonsense.
And it might help if you actually provided proof for your bald claims concerning drug use and being arrested, etc, be it NPR or whatever. I’m not saying it isn’t true, but if you’re going to go about making such claims then you need to provide reasonable statistical reports for them. As far as I’m concerned, you just made it up.
On the other hand, it’s about color — the color is green. If you have enough money, you can pretty much pay your way out of jail, most of the time, though certainly not all of the time. I believe we can, as reasonable people, all agree this was the case with OJ Simpson. And so it is, quite often with white people. Though it wasn’t the case with me when I was a teen, because I was just as poor as the black kids who were in court on similar charges. I went to jail just like the rest of them. And the fellows who were actually in on it with me, who happened to be able to pay for a decent lawyer, they got off. So it’s not about being black, but about how much money you have.
No thank you to your request to fill in the blanks on your race baiting ignorant rants. Namaste.
If you think crime only begets legitimate racial profiling and not the reverse, consider this. Scene: Black kid goes to store to buy twinkies & rootbeer. Profile: Kids who are black, walk and wear hoodies are all “on drugs” and “up to no good”. Black kid is obviously engaged in criminal activity because he is black, walks and eats at same time. Black kid is obviously a lethal threat because he begins behaving nervously once he realizes he is being stalked. (Don’t forget, its legal to stalk, but it is clearly evidence of criminal activity to be nervous while knowing you are being stalked.) Black kid tries hiding for 4 minutes but stalker ain’t getting back in his car. 4 minutes of silence = black kid is a killer. Black kid sees no out and stands his ground. Black kid is plugged for standing his ground and bleeds out 50% of his weight in 2 minutes. Result: 6 million black mothers with 12 million black kids who were formerly against their children carrying guns now load them all up with 9mm handguns to carry on their snack runs. You fill in the rest…..
As appalling as it is, the Trayvon Martin tragedy is an excellent illustration of the Thomas Theorem. “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.” To my way of thinking, the social construction of reality may be the best way of explaining how a boy doing nothing more than returning home from the store can be labeled as an f’ng punk, stalked, and ultimately killed within a matter of minutes. Labeling, moreover, has a defining impact on the audience as well as the individual. I’m reminded of works such a “Wayward Puritans” (those f’ng Quakers! Everyone knows they’re all witches!), by Erickson, as well as the classic study by Chambliss, “The Roughnecks and the Saints.”
I’m an African. When I first saw this video, I was enraged. But upon further probing, I found a longer version of this video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0kV_b3IK9M It is instructive to note that (i) somebody actually confronted the white guy [see 01:45], (ii) somebody assisted the black guy to take the bike [see 6:30], and (iii) somebody actually called the Police to report the white lady [see 09:54].
I’ve no idea where this experiment was conducted, nor whether or not it was edited ethically, but what I do know (and I do mean KNOW) is that I could care less what colour the person is, if I’d seen such an action I’d have phone ready and approached the man, asking him what was going on. If either of them had given me the answers these men gave, I’d be calling the police immediately.
Fact.
What was the typical response? That is the question. It would be very surprising if ever single person who witnessed these three people responded the same way; but if almost everyone responds in a certain way, the edited version probably has it about right.
It depends on what neighborhood and/or what part of the country you’re in. There are way more factors than merely color of skin. And thanks to the African fellow who actually did his research. If the tables were reversed would you be up in arms about the missing footage?
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/65527-in-513-days-between-trayvon-shooting-and-zimmerman-verdict-11106-blacks-murdered-by-other-blacks/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/antonio-santiago-west-dead-georgia-baby-killed_n_2931273.html
You fill in the rest.
No thank you. As per the black on black crime ~ I respectfully decline being baited to “fill in the rest” by reciprocating in-kind, i.e., pulling random irrelevant “facts” out of context that happen to suit a position and slinging them back at you. If you had more knowledge and understanding of an accurate history of blacks in America you might be better poised to see how several hundred years of slavery, Emmett Till, Willie Lynch, Jim Crow, et al created the inevitable evolution of black on black crime. NPR today pointed to research showing that teenaged white boys and teenaged black boys are engaged in the exact same level of smoking marijuana, yet black boys are EXPONENTIALLY more often arrested and convicted over whites. As per your link on some baby being killed, but with all due respect, I don’t have a clue what your point is, but it surely is not relevant to anything here.
First I must as “No thank you” what?
“No thank you, I’m not willing to actually look at the evidence”?
As per your being “baited”, isn’t that what you did, with your “you fill in the rest” bit after suggesting that “6 million black mothers with 12 million black kids who were formerly against their children carrying guns now load them all up with 9mm handguns to carry on their snack runs.”
I’m calling “bullshit” on this.
Emotionalist nonsense.
You haven’t a clue as to what you’re talking about.
And the point of the link of the white baby killed by the black teenagers was the fact that this was in no way, shape, nor form, covered in the manner as Trayvon Martin. The baby was just sitting there, being a baby, probably smiling, unknowingly at his murderer, thinking he was being handed a candy. Get it now?
And this was just pure bull: “Black kid tries hiding for 4 minutes but stalker ain’t getting back in his car. 4 minutes of silence = black kid is a killer. Black kid sees no out and stands his ground. Black kid is plugged for standing his ground and bleeds out 50% of his weight in 2 minutes.”
Emotionalists nonsense.
And it might help if you actually provided proof for your bald claims concerning drug use and being arrested, etc, be it NPR or whatever. I’m not saying it isn’t true, but if you’re going to go about making such claims then you need to provide reasonable statistical reports for them. As far as I’m concerned, you just made it up.
On the other hand, it’s about color — the color is green. If you have enough money, you can pretty much pay your way out of jail, most of the time, though certainly not all of the time. I believe we can, as reasonable people, all agree this was the case with OJ Simpson. And so it is, quite often with white people. Though it wasn’t the case with me when I was a teen, because I was just as poor as the black kids who were in court on similar charges. I went to jail just like the rest of them. And the fellows who were actually in on it with me, who happened to be able to pay for a decent lawyer, they got off. So it’s not about being black, but about how much money you have.
No thank you to your request to fill in the blanks on your race baiting ignorant rants. Namaste.